Fighting the Blues: Leaving the Legacy

“Oh, man! Oh dang!” I gasped. The train to my work was packed and I didn’t even have room to move. I felt several sets of eyes glance at me, probably wondering what this foreign looking individual uttered in the mostly silent commuter train. My mind was busy calculating and didn’t have time to bother. Bitterblossom had been unbanned in Modern, spiking my two copies from a mere $20 to over $60 in a matter of minutes. I had just made over $80.

At first, I was ecstatic. As a person who is the sole bread winner in the family (by choice of my wife and I), I am very shrewd on how much I spend on cards. I learned early on the impossible art of how to keep my personal purse strings in control. Yet, Magic: the Gathering is a great game in which you are able to invest in cards and make some money. Although I am no pro, I have become apt enough at trading and investing to be able to support my hobby without tapping into our family funds. Bitterblossom was fodder for that project. As I was rummaging through ideas of how to use the extra cash, a thought struck me. With this hike in price, I was overjoyed. But how about other people?

I swiped my phone on and opened my browser to my favorite Japanese blog. The first few lines were telling. Every blog post was about Bitterblossom and many others mentioned the hike in price. Some rejoiced like me and others lamented. The bar for entering Modern (at least with Faeries or any other Bitterblossom deck) had just been raised. This caught my eye.

I am a fan of eternal formats. When Modern was announced I was excited. Even though I decided not to enter the fray of Modern fighters, I still support its cause. Yet, there is a problem when the price of a deck becomes similar to decks in Legacy.

My issue with it stems from the very reason why Modern was conceived in the first place; to have an eternal, non-rotating format that escapes the ancient vow Wizards of the Coast made to never reprint old staples. Alas, I’m not here to complain about the Reserve List. Although I think it can easily be modified, I understand the worth behind keeping a promise. I am just uneasy of the fact that Modern is a more heavily sponsored format and Legacy is left mostly up to the fans. I am essentially the older sibling who is irritated by the volume of attention the younger receives. Why does Modern get so much love? Why doesn’t Legacy get more sanctioned events? The heart of the issue lies, I believe, in the availability of cards and the high price point of entry.

With the Reserved List in place, they are afraid to promote a format in which prices of cards will go through the roof. But, remember that I am not here to tackle the Reserved List. I’m writing this to propose ways to make Legacy more accessible, safe, and fun for all ages as much as possible. Thus, I am proposing to you three ways to drop prices of cards in Legacy without fighting the age old nemesis of the Reserved List.

If All Duals Were Created Equal

SavannahI own seven dual lands; three Savannahs, three Bayous, and a Scrubland. I have been using them for a while and love them all. One of my Bayous is a foreign white border card in which the picture is darker and has sharper contrast. Out of the three, I love the art of Savannah the most. I often imagine being in that land where fields of tall brown grass grow and a warm breeze brushes up against my cheeks. What I can’t figure for the life of me is how this beautiful dual land is less than half the cost of a Volcanic Island. Okay, I lied. I know why and it fits right into my most passionate topic; how blue has been treated throughout the years.

As you are sick of hearing, Islands have been the most dominant force in Legacy. Blue staples match the price with the prowess. An uncommon Alliance blue card is over $70, where other cards in the same cycle barely break a few dollars. Polluted Deltas is close to $100, while Windswept Heath is as low as $40. Since most top tier decks use blue, players flock to the blue staples, driving up the price.

But what if other colors were as strong, were as viable? The number of useful, powerful fetch lands will increase by six (four blue fetches, six non-blue fetches). Force of Wills will not be the only option to stop fast combo. Brainstorm will not be the only way to provide consistency. Show and Tell will not be the only way to consistently and powerfully two card combo. The prices of non-blue cards will increase and blue cards will lose value. Players are able to pick and choose which cards to start their Legacy from and the availability of the magic pool will increase significantly. Have you seen anyone use four Plateaus in a deck? Me neither. At least I haven’t seen them use them as much as four Tundras or Underground Seas. All those copies of Plateaus can potentially fuel Legacy players if only there was a viable deck. The same goes for Badlands, Taigas, and to an extent, Scrublands and Savannahs.

Thus, my solution is as follows; print more cards like Deathrite Shaman and Abrupt Decay. These cards impacted Legacy to make owning a Bayou useful. Bayou decks have become powerful competitors and allowed people to have a chance without owning Tundras and Volcanic Islands. The price rose, but is steady at around $80-90 on eBay. Now what if there were more cards printed that made other duals prize-worthy. They can be Standard cards that do not kill the format and will shift the demand away from blue to other combos of colors. It will destroy the necessity of owning blue cards, dropping deck prices and ultimately lowering the bar of entry. Is this idealistic? Yes, it is. Does this solve issues with other card prices? No, it doesn’t. But it sure is a step in the right direction. Other cards can be reprinted; duals can’t.

Now to prop up Wizards of the Coast, they are doing precisely what I am suggesting. Printing Cavern of Souls, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, reprinting Thoughtseize, Liliana of the Veil, and now Spirit of the Labyrinth has not gone unnoticed. We just need much, much more. Blue has been very well developed in the early years of Magic and has piled up many useful cards. We need an equal amount of development for the other colors and strategies.

Restricting Availability

Here is my wilder idea. Have you ever wondered why Brainstorm is restricted in Vintage? Or other cards like Power 9? The obvious answer is that they are too powerful. Having multiples in a deck can cause imbalance in the format. Restrictions help the fact that the cards in many decks have a severely limited print run. You only need to own one! Yet, Vintage is still played with a player base that is faithful, albeit smaller. Restricting cards has helped in keeping Vintage still approachable.

My second proposal is to introduce a Restricted List in Legacy. I know there is going to be a massive reaction or backlash against this. Legacy was made to separate it from Vintage, and the restriction rules were introduced to make a distinction. I understand this line of thought, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Legacy is now, I believe, in a place where the future health of the format is utterly dependent on how much support it can garner from Wizards of the Coast and private vendors. If we care about the format, we must act on it.

Imagine StarCityGames dropping the format for a promise of a larger audience from shall we say, Modern? Even now, StarCityGames Legacy Opens only attracts about half as much as Standard. The ones who make it to the top are the same bunch of people; those who can afford to buy or borrow the two hundred dollar Underground Seas. What does this do to the audiences at large? Japanese people are already shifting towards accepting StarCityGames as the number one source for up-to-date decklists. If they drop the format, there goes the metagame, not to mention card prices and investments.

I believe introducing a Restricted List in Legacy will not only help alleviate problems and costs associated with card availability, but would also shake up the metagame. Can you imagine a deck regularly using shock lands to supplement the restricted revised dual lands? Burn will inevitably get reach and fast beating strategies such as Zoo will gain in value. Daze will carry more risk, as bouncing a shock land may, well, shock themselves when they replay it. Filter lands will not be able to be used with Dazes and Submerge.

Yet, it will still cater to those who want to use the broken land as players are able to jam one in their deck. Fetchlands will still be available to get it, making sure that players are allowed to consistently display their prized possession.

As you can imagine, this might flood the market with a large number of extra copies of Revised dual lands, ultimately dropping the price and helping people get into the format. Not only that, but other lands producing two different colors of mana printed in the past will gain value. People will be able to create decks without using a single dual land while still giving a tiny edge to those who own them.

I seriously can’t imagine why this is a bad thing for the format, aside from those who own way too many revised duals. Even those people, I believe, won’t suffer due to the fact that the lands will not drop in value too much. Look at Vintage. Power 9 is still very expensive.

Just as a reminder, I do own multiple copies of dual lands. I realize that the drop in value may hurt my investments, but I don’t care. If more people play Legacy, the demand rises (see: Thoughtseize). The difference is, other reprint-able cards now have a reason to exist.

The Cards That Never Were

world1998deckHere is my wildest idea. Ready for it? I don’t think you are. Before I let you in on it, let me tell you a story. It was roughly two and a half years ago. I was excited for another set to be released. As I was rummaging through the spoilers list, I noticed something odd. There were two cards with the same card number. As I was reading through the explanation for the spoiled card, I was shocked. They had explained that they were going to print a card that would flip during the game! I couldn’t believe it. The design of the back of the cards I got so fond of was being changed to include another side of the card. The rules demanded for sleeves to be used during a tournament.

When I thought about this, I thought this could easily apply to Legacy. You know those reprinted, not legal promotional gold cards? Why can’t they make them legal? The only difference is that the outside line (back or front) is gold instead of black. The back design may differ, but can be hidden by sleeves. There are droves of these cards in circulation and they help with availability like none other. Crazy? I know.

This opens up a can of worms too many to count. I understand the ramifications this could cause. It touches on the reprint policy, it makes authenticity fuzzy, it can ruin reputation, or simply, it can’t be done. But all I am suggesting is another way to think outside of the box. If you are as serious as I am to keeping Legacy a healthy and supported format, we have to do something drastic. And in desperation I thought of this idea.

Final Note

In the wake of Grand Prix Paris, I think it is obvious that Legacy is still popular. I have suggested different ways for Wizards of the Coast to act on the eternal format many older folks have learned to love. I want to see this healthy, competitive, and creative format alive for the younger generation. I have given three specific things Wizards can do, starting from more plausible solutions to the unlikely. I know that the ideas may seem foreign to you, or to those who have become accustomed to the way it has always been. I know that some ideas may touch a nerve. But I firmly believe that if Magic as a whole is to become bigger, better, and mainstream, we have to approach the formats holistically.

Wizards of the Coast can’t simply focus on the newer formats while ignoring the old. That only alienates those who have become attached to the old cards, Magic players who tend to be more faithful to a format and have the means to pay for new products. Keeping Legacy alive also gives hope for those younger players who want to play the same cards after rotation or want to use cards banned from Modern. No matter where you stand on the format, I hope I have suggested some ideas outside of the box. I encourage all of you who are fighting the Restricted List to take a look at these ideas. Perhaps we can convince Wizards of the Coast of a solution that protects their integrity and supports Legacy.

I am very interested in what you think. Let me know in the comments.

  • Fernando Secco

    Hi Michael. Here’s the thing, I like that you’re thinking in ways to help with this stupid price bubble we live in, but I don’t think you thought the outcome of your ideas too much.

    Restricting duals, for example, would do exactly what you say with duals: reduce their price drastically and allow much more people to enter the format. But… what will happen to the price of shocklands? And what will happen to Modern? So what’s the interest of Wizards in making Legacy cheaper and Modern even more expensive? You say that Modern is already too expensive, imagine with Shocks costing almost what duals cost today. Yes, they can reprint shocks. But we know what happend to Goyf and Confidant on that, right? I think you give Legacy way too much credit. Thoughtseize had a boost in its price because of Modern, not Legacy.

    Also, you say you won’t care if duals price drops a lot, but you own 7 of them. Only 7 non-blue duals. What about people that own 40? If Wizards won’t drop the reserved list because of those people, why would they do that with duals prices?

    Also, last but not least, printing staples in other colors doesn’t actually make blue duals cheaper. Unfortunatelly It just makes other duals more expensive. So I don’t think that’s a solution either.

    The thing with Legacy is that, prices rising like this and no support from Wizards, there’s a serious probability that people will eventually just stop playing Legacy to play a much cheaper format: 10-Proxy Vintage. I know I did that.

    • Michael Shimoji

      Good points and I respect all your opinions. I perhaps do put much stock in Legacy, but that’s the thing. Dropping formats has never been good for local game stores. With Legacy being dropped, half of old staples will be essentially unsaleable. Also, being able to reprint shocks has yielded direct revenue for Wizards. With the rise of shocks and printable Legact staples, Wizards is given a wider range of sought after products to reprint. As you say, see Modern Masters as an example. I understand the drop in value for people who own dual lands, but that is only temporary as I said in the article. The dual lands are still unable to be reprinted and with the rise of player base, there will be a rise in demand for the 1 dual in their deck. Why restrict it if the duals are going to rise anyway? To give non-dual owners a chance to enter the format. One dual will not make a huge difference in a deck where as lacing four would.

      Again I firmly believe it is in Wizards interest to keep all if the formats alive. And as you said, Legacy is heading in a direction not healthy for it. Vintage dissipated, but was still upheld by Legacy which covered most of Magic’s history. If Legacy dies, half of Magic’s cards are cut off from support with not a boe Legacy to replace it.

  • fm302boss

    Oh jeez. No. No. No. The reason Legacy is fun is because you get to play all the dual lands you want and whatever conglomeration of cards you desire. A restricted list would turn Legacy into a Modern 2.0…… No thanks. Sorry for all those who cant afford a deck for Legacy but this turns Legacy into crap for those who can afford it. I would love to buy a Corvette but whining to Chevrolet that they are too expensive would be pretty futile.

    • Michael Shimoji

      Thanks for the comment and reading the article! I truly do appreciate all your comments. The problem is two fold. One, fun is rather subjective. Some may find playing four duals fun as others may not. Secondly, if it continues, there will be no Legacy to play. Just like Vintage, support from local stores will wane and sanctioned events will be a rarity. Dual lands will drop in prices anyway. He player base playing Legacy is far less than the potential player base that we could achieve and keeping the format living. I think it could be worth the sacrifice.

      • fm302boss

        I realize people are worried Legacy is going to die…. but I cant figure out how. It is far more expensive to play Vintage and far more difficult to find local stores and sanctioned events that support Vintage ….yet the cards it requires to be competitive have NEVER dropped in price. So I believe your belief that “Dual lands will drop in prices anyway” is way off.

        “The player base playing Legacy is far less than the potential player base that we could achieve and keeping the format living”

        I think this statement is probably half correct. You certainly would open up the potential player base….but it wouldn’t keep the format living. In fact, in wouldn’t be the same format we know as Legacy anymore at all. It would be a neutered abomination.

        I give you the following scenario off the top of my head that I find repulsive……Paying 2 life for a shockland only to have it Wasted away. That makes me want to vomit. Mana denial cards in general become much more powerful when you have to pay 2 life for your lands. That’s fun?

        • Fernando Secco

          I disagree with you. Vintage, the way it’s played these days (10 proxy), is cheaper than Legacy.

          Of course, it’s not an ideal scenario for Vintage, but well, it’s cheaper.

          • fm302boss

            I don’t play Vintage. I remember it being 5 proxies a few years ago. Up to 10 now? Is this the only thing keeping Vintage going?

        • Michael Shimoji

          Thanks for furthering the discussion! Vintage did not drop in price due to it being never supported as you have admitted. Legacy’ price is inflated because people play them in tourneys. If scg drops the circuit, it will inevitably drop as demand will.

          Again, “fun” is very relative and subjective. Burn players will receive a competitive edge and storm will not care much being shocked. Mana denial will not do much against strategies that are mono colored and basic lands will rise in stock. This is theoretical, I know, but a likely scenario.

          I personally find using different lands more exciting. It grows another branch in the decision tree. Do I shock myself? Or perhaps opt for using filter lands which don’t shock ourselves?

          • fm302boss

            I understand your point. If the choice was literally “play legacy with a restricted list or not be able to play” then I would choose the former. However I would probably move to Modern (I have a couple good decks already) because I don’t think I would be able to mentally accept how disappointed I would feel about restricted Legacy. I think the large majority of Legacy players would feel this way. Some players would have their entire decks wiped out simply by restricting original duals….And that to me is the biggest reason a restricted list would fail. Overall it would punish the very players who have invested a large amount of time, effort, and money into developing the format in favor of those who have not. That to me seems like a losing scenario.

  • TheKakaStorm

    I see what you are saying here with this proposed restricted list for legacy. However I don’t think you have properly grasped the restricted list for vintage. Vintage is a format that allows all cards barring ante and cards with logistical problems (shahrazad, falling star and chaos orb…. Though I would live to see the return of the zad). The only format where no card is banned for power. However a restricted list is needed to essentially make it a playable format. Otherwise every game would be “do you have force? No? Game over”. Imagine drop lotus, crack acall, see another acall, draw find another lotus…. That shit is worse than Sparta. So have to say your vintage analogy is kinda not right.

    On the flip side a legacy centric restricted list could work. However in some ways it would then require a lot more balancing than you think. Since you are now restricting for dollar value. Where do you draw the line? 200? 100? 50? Then you have to consider how this changes the power of the format and adjust other bannings or restrictions for power as well. Vicious cycle right?

    I’d personally prefer as a vintage player abolishment of the reprint policy.

    • Michael Shimoji

      Thank you for reading! I agree that the cards were banned/restricted due to their power. I also resonate with your idea that it will take some work in balancing. But do you think it is worth going through the growing pains? I seriously think that we must act soon or the format will diminish in popularity, eventually being relegated to older folks who can acquire the cards. I know it is a collectable card game and that investment is required, but when it marginalizes the general market, I think we are heading towards a cliff. Restricting dual lands, I think, will not have that much impact on the power level. The lands can be supplemented with others. I think an example may be seen in the Death Shadow’s decks’ use of shocklands. There are several players here in Japan that use them as well to some success.

      I whole heartedly agree that the reprint policy is the main culprit. Ridding that will be the easiest solution. I just don’t think they will in the near future and we are forced to find some other solutions.

  • Chris P.

    Hello,

    I understand the blight of investing in Legacy. It is format you have to be driven to continue to invest in. Which is why I have done it for years.

    BUT I like to think that a world with perfect mana (i.e. – what you think are “broken lands”) is what makes legacy so great. It pushes ingenuity and allows for unique things to be brewed, such as death blade (a 4 color deck??! That would not be possible without a healthy mana base). But remember this is also a double edged sword. There is a reason why wasteland is $80 and seen in every deck you find to be fair (i.e. – decks without blue). Don’t forget about blood moon’s current push in that of format. There is a risk/reward with duals, and without that balance people can’t take advantage of greedy mana bases.

    Follow-up questions/comments:
    1) Under your current arguments, wouldn’t wasteland need to be restricted as well? If so, isn’t that something that gives fare decks an edge?
    a) Would you consider unbanning/restricting strip-mine as well if wasteland was too pricy?
    2) What about karakas, another non blue card that is a staple for most fair decks? If it were restricted in legacy, Show and Tell would be all the more powerful.
    3) If we were to restrict duals, shouldn’t we restrict fetches, too? Those seem pretty broken in my opinion. 1 life for perfect mana AND a shuffle affect that can’t be counter spell’d (ignoring stifle of course)? that iis pretty disgusting considering brainstorms, Jace, and ponders.

    • I’m relatively new to Legacy and haven’t really invested in it like you have, but I feel compelled to correct what I think is a misinterpretation.
      Michael isn’t saying we should ban or restrict Duals because they’re broken or powerful. Rather, he wants to open up Legacy to new players by restricting cards that WotC has promised they won’t reprint.
      Duals are only going to get more expensive as time goes by. They never go down in price and the more Legacy becomes diversified as new cards come out, the more of a demand there will be for those limited number of duals. It conceivable that at some point there won’t be enough duals to go around. As this happens the price will rise and become more and more of a barrier to people getting into Legacy.
      And people not getting into Legacy means that people will only leave Legacy, either for Modern and Standard or they’ll just drop the game completely. Then, as stores see Legacy’s popularity drop away, they’ll support Modern and Standard more as a consequence. The less the stores support Legacy, the less popular it becomes until it ends up only being played by people in little booths at GPs instead of the main event, or even the side event.
      It’s really the reprint policy that Michael’s attacking. He’s simply offering alternatives to something that is a major hindrance to new players who want to play Legacy. Standard is insanely easy to get into. Modern, while a step-up in both complexity and price, is still relatively easy to get into.
      I completely understand the bad taste that restricting duals leaves in a player’s mouth. Who wants to have spent hundreds of dollars on a deck, only to see some of the most expensive cards crash in price? But, as unfortunate as it is, there just may come a time where we have to decide between keeping our investments or our format.

    • Michael Shimoji

      Thank you for your comment! Essentially, what Carl said is correct. I do not propose restricting on basis on brokenness or even price. I am proposing restricting due to the nature of the reprint policy as I have stated above. The above suggestions are according to what I believe would open up the player base without touching the reprint policy. Wizards has made it clear that they will not reprint them. How can we get around this? Thus the restricting.

      Karakas and wasteland can and have been reprinted. They have the freedom in the future to do more, benefitting the player base and their sales. Duals lands only decrease with wear and loss. Players will inevitably shrink as does th availability. It will ultimately crush the format. By opening up the usage of different lands, the format does not rely on the future of unreprintable lands.

      Again, the brokenness is not the issue. It is the availability. Modern has plenty of multicolored decks with shocks. So can Legacy with one dual each of different colors and shocks in a deck.

  • Jim Tosetti

    I think True-Name Nemesis is somewhat ruining the format. I think if it were banned things would start to look up again. If a creature that had some thought put into it were printed in its place Legacy would only continue to grow.

    I also tend to prefer a view of Magic that does not take card value into consideration, but rather places an emphasis on creativity and complexity. I think a restricted list would make Legacy infinitely better although the deck I play would be eliminated.

    • Michael Shimoji

      Thank you so much for commenting! I agree completely that True Name Nemesis is the thorn in Legacy’s side. Hopefully, they will create a non-blue creature in which to put it into its place. I believe we will see a printing of such a creature or a spell, so my hopes are up.

      I fully see how restriction will not only control prices, but make things more complex and open up room for creativity.

      Thanks again and hope to hear from you in my next article!

  • We talk some on twitter and you know where I stand on the power of Legacy and it’s “dominance” of U mana. So I will stay away from all that. However I feel that adding a restriction to the number of a card in a deck is going to break the overall format in half and force most players to ultimately either reinvest or quit.
    So to start, yes there is a list of cards that can not be reprinted in sets, but I am in the understanding that “FtV” ignored that list and so did judge foils for a while. WotC has the right to sway the list open and closed when it wants. I think that in the far future when all the duels look like crap and so does the Moxdiamonds and other nonprint cards, that they will have to figure out a new way to print them. I myself would love to see new duels with vanishing or fading or even phasing so that they are a little different and have a backlash. But if you lower the number of them, will you bring in any of the banned broken cards as a 1of? Like library or bizzar of bag? I mean it’s logical right? Not at all…
    With that said, let’s talk Legacy mtgfinance. The format has more players now then ever, yes the number is half that of standard but is it really? Okay, I just paid a little over $1k to build DeadGuyAle and it is sexy, my new favorite deck to pilot. No U in it. Will remain playable forever. Alright, well I can spend half that and play standard for a few months, then spend more to add the next set in and then continue. Standard over time is truly the most expensive format to play and stay competitive in. I mean yes it’s cheaper to start but in time, you could have build a power9 ready Vintage deck. (I counted my money sent back in lor block and it made me quit to play legacy). Ok this next sounds like a lie but eBay and trading does wonders, I bought everything for RUG Delver for about 2K and it is the most winning deck I play. So cost vs what you can do is up to the player really. I got my 5 underground sea on eBay a few months back for just under $500. All very pretty!
    Alright now let’s talk about what would happen if you added the vintage restricted style list to the format. So only one underground sea can be played? Well now I am going to build a deck that doesn’t need it, hmmm what to play then? I know showntell with only basic islands. Or dredge with no lands or no duels needed. Or elf combo, the already good RDW, and even Fish because TNN is mean!!! So what just happened? The fair decks became smashed, the “broken” U and whatever color decks got smashed, and Belcher just became a top dog again because it runs one teiga… Not an answer to the formats health which like I said before, it doing well.
    As another person above also pointed out, modern will jump in price, vintage will maybe take a hit one way or the other. But will it affect WotC any? Nope. They see no money from the cards, only from the boxes. They print x amount of stock and then SCG, TrollnToad, and others make the money off the singles. With SCG controlling the market price for almost all cards not on eBay, they make them go up and down as they see fit. When legacy gets lower in number will they shut it down? No, they will lower price to suck us back in.
    So I will end my comment with this, Vintage is the ultimate fastest format. Legacy is ment to be a fast format, Modern is ment to be slower like the extinct extended format and standard. My thought is that is someone can’t handle the price, or the speed, or the power, then it’s not the right format for them. Belcher can win on turn 1, RDW can win on turn 4, storm can when whenever it wants, none need duels and not all run them, but I think if I want to play 4 underground sea then I should have to either find a way to get them cheap (eBay and tcgplayer) or trade to get them if I don’t want to pay the high SCG price. Magic is a hobby and is for fun, it is not free and was never ment to be sadly enough.

  • Steve2112Rush

    Hello there, loved the article and I too have thought about having a restricted list in legacy before. I don’t know if restricting dual lands is the answer, but it is worth a thought, and I commend on you trying something different to everyone else.

    What I do not like is the allowance of proxys. In australia where I live, card availability is not as high while prices from local vendors are astronomical compared to elsewhere. As a result, game stores that run sanctioned legacy tournaments will always allow players to have usually between 15-25 proxys in their 75.

    I initially thought this was a good idea, allowing people to play the decks and experiment with new deck designs, without having to purchase whatever $30 cards they were interested in. The reality was that everyone just copied the tier 1 decks, and in 6 rounds I played 3 u/w/r countertop-miracles and 3 delver decks. I did not see a real wasteland all day, even though my real cavern of souls were wasted constantly. Proxys are a bad idea. I myself am against them, and even as a full time university student with limited resources, I refuse to proxy because it detracts something from the game. In any case, I refuse to play proxy tournaments now, and in a country where almost all tournaments are proxy, it’s a lose-lose situation. Especially when you play red… lol

    tldr- proxys suck, red decks and goblins rule.