Serious Vintage Episode 28: The Eldrazi Are Coming
For episode 28, Geoff Moes (@ThallidTosser on Twitter), Nat Moes (@GrandpaBelcher), Josh Chapple (@joshchapple), and Andy Probasco (@tmdBrassMan) look at the coming storm of Eldrazi in Vintage Magic: The Gathering, how should players prepare for it, and how should it be treated grammatically.
00:30 – The Eldrazi Are Coming
22:00 – What Do We Do When the Eldrazi Get Here?
43:53 – How Do We Pronounce Eldrazi, Anyway?
53:47 – Outro
Total runtime – 0:54:19
The Eldrazi Are Coming!
We jump right in on the podcast talking about various flavors of Eldrazi decks, examples of which are listed below.
White Eldrazi, by Andy Probasco - 5th Place NYSE IV
White Eldrazi has a lot of creatures with abilities. It can control the board with Eldrazi Displacer (with or without its combo-buddy Containment Priest), and can shut down spellcasting with Thalia, Vryn Wingmare, Thorn, and Lodestone. It’s got a lot of controlling cards and good answers to the threats of the format. A similar list took first at Eternal Extravaganza IV.
JacoDrazi, by Jason Jaco - 10th Place NYSE IV
Tribal Eldrazi (which also made the finals of the Eternal Extravaganza IV) has bigger creatures than everything else in Vintage. To keep unfair decks in line, it has Null Rod. It’s a classic aggro-style Vintage deck. It will beat you on the ground, to the ground, and into the ground. If it doesn’t do that, it gets out-Vintaged.
Ravager Aggro Workshops, by Andy Markiton - 1st Place
1 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
4 Tangle Wire
4 Arcbound Ravager
4 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Lodestone Golem
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 Hangarback Walker
Mana Sources (26)
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Mishra’s Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Eldrazi Temple
1 Strip Mine
4 Grafdigger’s Cage
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Tormod’s Crypt
3 Crucible of Worlds
2 Witchbane Orb
This is, seemingly, the logical progression of Shops post Lodestone Golem restriction – cut three Lodestone Golems to make room for four Thought-Knot Seers. The lock pieces are similar to previous recent Workshops decks, but Seer makes the deck more resilient against artifact removal. Even Hurkyl’s Recall, which used to be catch-all artifact beater, might still leave lethal 4/4s on the board.
Eldrazi has so far been a great, fun, and formidable addition to the format. If it continues being successful and if the Tribal Eldrazi version takes off as a budget option, Eldrazi will be a significant player for a long time.
What Do We Do When the Eldrazi Get Here?
After introducing the decks, we talk about how to beat them. Bigger creatures, more removal, and better cards seem like obvious plays, but how to go about building a new deck. There are a few good ideas here, from Painter’s Servant and Blood Moon to Path to Exile and Gurmag Angler. Some Vintage players might have to completely rethink how they look at the format.
How Do We Even Pronounce Eldrazi?
We wrap up with everyone’s favorite topic: grammar. I’m not sure if Wizards has weighed in on the singular versus plural of Eldrazi. If you use Eldrazi as the plural and Eldrazo as the singular, it lends a fun European flare to the game, though.
Wizards has weighed in on the plural of Tarmogoyf (though I can’t find the reference right now), saying it’s Tarmogoyfs. That’s no fun, especially if Tarmogoyf regains popularity against Eldrazi. The obvious analog is wolf. Wolf, wolves; Tarmogoyf, Tarmogoyves. Try it. It’s comforting.
And one of the answers we suggest for Eldrazi, Baleful Strix, does, in fact, have a plural. You can attack with a flock of Striges.
Conclusion and Question for Discussion
Thanks for listening! We’re excited at the prospect of Eldrazi changing the face of Vintage Magic. How do you feel about it? Now that people can turn their Standard cards into a Vintage deck, how do you plan to react to the metagame shift? Do you want to see more creatures attacking the format, or are you an old-school wizard who likes casting spells that don’t require feeding? We’ll look forward to any questions or comments here or on Twitter. You can also email us at firstname.lastname@example.org.