Serious Vintage Episode 22: Gifts Regiven

For episode 22, Geoff Moes (@ThallidTosser on Twitter), Nat Moes (@GrandpaBelcher), and Josh Chapple (@joshchapple) invited Andy “Brassman” Probasco to talk about the recent changes in the Vintage metagame: Treasure Cruise’s restriction, Gifts Ungiven’s unrestriction, and the arrival of Fate Reforged.

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Here’s the timestamped table of contents for your listening ease and enjoyment:
00:27 – Treasure Cruising Into the Sunset
10:03 – Gifts Unrestricted
44:54 – Monk Business
55:15 – Outro
Total runtime – 53:23

Show Notes

I don’t want to cover too much here because the discussion was so lively and fairly comprehensive. We were all surprised but not shocked by Treasure Cruise, but the big topic was Gifts Ungiven, hence our special guest. You can read Brassman’s collected SCG articles here, and a lot of that content will be worthwhile for seeing where Gifts Ungiven came from and where it might go in the future. The first Gifts Era was a high point for Vintage and its writing, so there is a wealth of historic and historical information on that site from Brassman, Stephen Menendian, and others.

Anyway, here’s Brassman’s Empty Gifts list circa 2007, shortly before Gifts Ungiven was restricted. He talks about it being his favorite variant:

Empty

[Business] (36)
Tormod’s Crypt
Ancestral Recall
Brainstorm
Dark Ritual
Force of Will
Gifts Ungiven
Hurkyl’s Recall
Mana Drain
Mystical Tutor
Pyroblast
Repeal
Skeletal Scrying
Vampiric Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Empty the Warrens
Merchant Scroll
Recoup
Tendrils of Agony
Time Walk
Timetwister
Yawgmoth’s Will

[/Business] (0)

[Mana Sources] (24)
Lotus Petal
Black Lotus
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Mana Crypt
Sol Ring
Tolarian Academy
Library of Alexandria
Polluted Delta
Flooded Strand
Underground Sea
Volcanic Island
Island
Snow-Covered Island

[/Mana Sources] (0)
[Sideboard] (15)
Pithing Needle
Tormod’s Crypt
Hurkyl’s Recall
Pyroblast
Rebuild
Red Elemental Blast
Repeal
Duress
Empty the Warrens[/Sideboard]

Concluding Remarks

Thanks for listening! We hope to do more regular podcasting in 2015. We look forward to any questions or comments here or on Twitter. You can also email us at seriousvintagepodcast@gmail.com.

Nat Moes

Nat Moes lives in Columbus, Ohio, and plays Vintage and Legacy with a group of idiots with the audacity to call themselves Team Serious. He is responsible for spreading the plague that is Goblin Charbelcher and has few Magic: the Gathering accolades to speak of aside from some tournament T8s. He is a cohost of the Serious Vintage podcast.

  • Theo

    Can’t wait to listen to this tomorrow! Happy to hear that you will be podcasting on a more regular basis. I’ve taken a break from magic but plan on getting back into the scene soon. #InVintage

    • Grandpappy Belcher

      Always happy to have you in the community, Theo! Thanks for listening. Let me know when you want to get back into tournaments, and we test Mondays at FOG on Bethel.

  • fsecco

    Nice episode. I just wanted to point out that you guys completely forgot a valid use of 2-card Gifts piles: Unburial Rites. It’s been widely used in Modern and I’ve seen lists in The Mana Drain already using it to revive things like Sphinx of the Steel Wind and Auriok Salvagers (it looks specially sweet in a Salvagers/Lotus/Unburial/? pile)
    So don’t laugh about 2-card piles! 😛

  • fernando

    Great episode. Good to hear Andy talk about Gifts again.
    I keep seeing players trying to build the current Gifts decks with 0-3 Mana drain. Imho, it probably shouldnt be less than 3 Mana Drain in a Gifts deck, unless it runs Dark Ritual.
    Am I wrong? Maybe I’m missing something?