Everyday Eternal Podcast Episode 4: Community Building

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In episode four of #EverydayEternal, Matt Pavlic (sdematt), Jacob Kory (@MTGKoby on Twitter), Sean O’Brien (nedleeds), and Sam Craven (@TheCravenOne on Twitter) discuss the Legacy community as a whole and what can be done to help foster and grow that community. Returning to a previous topic, we discuss more ways to punish the metagame; this time, discussing cards we think are underplayed in the meta.

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Here’s the timestamped table of contents for your listening ease and enjoyment:
00:00:54 : Recent tournament results
00:04:06 : Community Building
00:27:22 : Underplayed cards that punish the metagame
00:47:14 : Deck pimping
01:01:28 : Outro
01:03:05 : Sean sings
Total runtime: 1:03:44

Bonus Deck Lists

Here are some potential deck lists based on our metagame observations (please note these still require testing and tweaking!).

CounterTop Rest in Peace, by Sam Craven

[Business] (33)
Force of Will
Counterbalance
Sensei’s Divining Top
Brainstorm
Rest in Peace
Helm of Obedience
Energy Field
Back to Basics
Swords to Plowshares
FLEX

[Mana Sources] (25)
Flooded Strand
Misty Rainforest
Scalding Tarn
Polluted Delta
Tundra
Island
Plains
[Sideboard] (0)

Post-Land Tax-Unban Tax/Rack/Bonfire, by Sean O'Brien

[Business] (35)
Enlightened Tutor
Sensei’s Divining Top
Humility
Lightning Bolt
Terminus
Bonfire of the Damned
Swords to Plowshares
Leyline of Sanctity
Trading Post
Rest in Peace
Oblivion Ring
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Ajani Vengeant
Armageddon
Scroll Rack
Land Tax
Burning Wish

[Mana Sources] (25)
Mox Diamond
Karakas
Arid Mesa
Marsh Flats
Plateau
Plains
Mountain
[Sideboard] (15)
Pithing Needle
Leyline of Sanctity
Boiling Seas
Shattering Spree
Terminus
Entreat the Angels
Tremor
Pyroclasm
Relic of Progenitus
Ruination
Red Sun’s Zenith
Tariff
Cataclysm

CounterTop Miracles, by Matt Pavlic

[Business] (37)
Force of Will
Counterbalance
Sensei’s Divining Top
Brainstorm
Enlightened Tutor
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Entreat the Angels
Engineered Explosives
Luminarch Ascension
Swords to Plowshares
Pyroclasm/Terminus/Punishing Fires
Oblivion Ring
Rest in Peace
Blood Moon
Vendilion Clique

[Mana Sources] (23)
Mystic Gate
Karakas
Flooded Strand
Polluted Delta
Arid Mesa
Tundra
Volcanic Island
Island
Plains

(Note: add 4 Grove, less Islands and Volcs for Fires Combo) (0)
[Sideboard] (15)
Rest in Peace
Red Elemental Blast
Leyline of Sanctity
Blood Moon
Ethersworn Cannonist
Porphyry Nodes
Open/Flex

RW Moon, by Matt Pavlic

[Business] (32)
Suppression Field
Chalice of the Void
Trinisphere
Blood Moon
Magus of the Moon
Lodestone Golem
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Stoneforge Mystic
Umezawa’s Jitte

[Mana Sources] (28)
Mox Diamond
Ancient Tomb
City of Traitors
Karakas
Arid Mesa
Plateau
Plains
Mountain
[Sideboard] (0)

UR Delverless Delver, by Matt Pavlic

[Business] (41)
Snapcaster Mage
Grim Lavamancer
Goblin guide
Vendilion Clique
Force of Will
Flusterstorm
Daze
Brainstorm
Ponder
Price of Progress
Sulfuric Vortex
Lightning Bolt

[Mana Sources] (19)
Scalding Tarn
Misty Rainforest
Volcanic island
Island
Mountain
Wasteland
[Sideboard] (0)

Thanks again for listening! If you have any questions or just want to chat, let us know on Twitter (@EternalMTG), or email (EverydayEternalCast@gmail.com), or in the comments section below.

  • t

    As I mentioned on other places, hosting an unsanctioned proxy tournament usually leads to young kids proxying up the latest combo decks, not fully understand the intricacy of combo, but rather brute force the deck into victory.

    As an example, High Tide is painful to watch, when the player obviously does not have sufficient practice with his proxied cards, yet he spends 10 to 20 min a turn, stalling the entire tournament during the extra 5 turns.

    Buy your Gaea’s Cradle, how did you guys miss that?

    The above Legacy lists are horrible, except CounterTop Miracles by Matt Pavlic. If you are looking for a CounterTop expert, just copy-paste everything Joe Lossett has written.

    Miracle tends to do better if the meta is filled with combos. It’s the only deck runs actual Counterspell as well as Counterbalance.

    If you really want to discuss meta, you should discuss how every deck is trying to jam DRS into itself: Maverick, Jund, Stoneblade, and BUG, which is another reason why RiP is excellent.

    • Koby

      Thanks for the feedback. Proxies are really up to the community to decide. Most seasoned players would prefer sanctioned nonproxy tournaments, but if it means reaching out to newer or younger players then Proxy might be a good way to go.

      The lists included are not tournament tuned by design. They are a discussion point to get ideas formulated and developed. New strategies are rarely fully developed on the first iteration.

      As for DRS in every deck – I think we’ve been harping on ways to beat this trend in the last few episodes. Hopefully we’ll see some tournament results that can show players’ innovations in the coming weeks. Remember that metagame evolution in Legacy is measured in months, not weeks.

  • Sean O

    Children playing high tide is a strong and compelling argument against proxies. Thanks for the feedback. Fight the power. Livestrong.

  • lordfrezon

    A possible replacement for swords while playing chalice is dismember. It kills most stuff and just costs you life instead of giving them life.

    Also, that singing at the end was either the best if worst thing ever, still deciding which. But great podcast overall. Keep it up!

    • Sean O

      I like Dismember but many chalice decks also include Ancient Tomb … and it can get rough on the life total. There are tons of white effects that wreck attacking and blocking men … but that doesn’t solve an on the draw DRS

    • Good news! There’s more singing in the next episode!

  • Matt P

    I just had a really long, well thought out comment that got deleted since I got the stupid captcha wrong.

    Since I don’t want to retype it all again in long form:

    1) The decklists posted are merely jumping off points for experimentation. We mentioned cards and strategies and didn’t want to leave listeners hanging without some sort of list to work with.

    2) DRS mania was discussed in Episode 1 or 2. Basically, be the better control, aggro, or midrange deck. Run more removal, be faster, or have a better endgame. With all the DRS running around, Punishing Fires is good removal for it, or just running RIP, which connects to the Miracles argument.

    3) If you didn’t buy Cradles by now, you missed the boat. Cradle is fine, but it doesn’t make Elves insanely busted. It makes it a bit more consistent in getting over some mana humps, but Crop Rotation was in the deck already and did the same thing. If you’re worried, run more Pyroclasm, Golgari Charm, Rakdos Charm, Plagues, or Dueling Grounds.

    hope it helps!

    -Matt

  • sean

    but but but … pyroclasm kills my guys ????